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17 July 2010

Interview: NAL's 5,000cr RTA-70 commercial aircraft programme

17 Jul 2010 8ak: With both Boeing and Airbus predicting that India will need around 1,000 commercial jets in the next 2 decades and forecasting a domestic traffic increase of 10% to 12% there is little doubt that there is a decent demand for a regional commercial aircraft. After the unfortunate crash of the 14-seater, Saras plane in March 2009, National Aerospace Laboratory NAL is back with a more ambitious plan to build a larger 70-90 seater aircraft termed RTA-70. In this regard we spoke to QuEST Chairman Aravind Melligeri about the project. 

8ak: Please explain the current status of the RTA 70 project

Melligeri: The project is at a very early stage. NAL will build a design bureau and should plan on a quick initial configuration freeze after talking to potential customers. This will help it build a detailed business plan and seek appropriate funds and support from the government, as well as other risk sharing partners. This program is being viewed as a major public-private initiative. The challenge for NAL would be to design a plane from scratch and build it to be globally competitive standards.

8ak: One problem with Saras was the 100% indigenisation objective whereas the world is moving towards a global supply chain. What are their views on working with external partners?

Melligeri: In discussions with NAL they have not given any indication that they would exclude anyone who can help provide the solution within the parameters. They want to ensure that the program is not under any risk that could arise from any embargos as well as that there are no black boxes in terms of transfer of technology. 

This public-private initiative will help bring together the best in class of local and global talent for the design, development, manufacturing, serial production and program management of the RTA-70 programme. We from QuEST have offered the key stakeholders that we can support in these initiatives of tapping global resources for the success of the programmes. We have had some preliminary discussion with the RTA-70 program team from NAL in this regard. We are also sensitive to needs and the risk of embargo and will assit in safeguarding against these risks. NAL should not risk being on a learning curve with this programme.

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11 July 2010

MMRCA rumours

11 Jul 2010 8ak: Post 8ak's MMRCA article on Dodbuzz.com some rumours that only 3 heavy lifters have made it to next round. Any reader comments? 

07 July 2010

First eliminations in MMRCA expected this month

07 Jul 2010 8ak (Manu Sood's article also published on Military.com's Dodbuzz here): While it’s too soon to predict a likely winner for India’s huge competition for 126 Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA), the first indicators should be out as early as the next week when the technical evaluation committee’s report comes out.

Reports state that this deal for 126 fighters will cost $10 billion, but there exist huge price variances between the offered fighters of varying capability. And this figure is a lifecycle cost –  not an acquisition cost — so it is not clear if the number of fighters is fixed or whether the budget figure is. Half the fighters would not qualify even before going in to trials depending on the answer.

This is the first indication of the general confusion in the competition. The second is why a single engine aircraft with a 1970’s airframe is in the same competition as the most modern and expensive twin engine heavy hitter. The Indian Ministry of Defense has drafted the tender so broadly that most fighters would qualify. But this lackadaisical attitude will cost competitors hundreds of millions of dollars when they compete but fail. One competitor told 8ak that the competition could cost each bidder an average of $180 million given costs such as each bomb drop in live weapons’ trials could cost up to US$1 million. In addition, most companies would have spent many hundreds of millions more to adapt their offering for the competition, for example developing the AESA radars.

Already there are reports that some competitors have failed to meet requirements in the early stages of the competition. On Mar 26, Shiv Aroor reported that four contenders failed their high altitude tests in Leh. This has not been since confirmed. Certainly, no contender has given signs of withdrawing from the competition.

For all its drawbacks, the competition is transparent. If any vendor is kicked out, India will have to give explicit reasons for which part of the tests it failed. So even if the IAF did not want a particular aircraft, if all the tick boxes were checked, no company can be eliminated at this stage even if they have no chance of eventually winning.

The threat driving the competition is a two-front war with Pakistan and China. With both states having nuclear weapons a deep-penetration strike is virtually ruled-out as per Brig Kanwal of CLAWS (Centre for Land Warfare Studies) since it would risk over-flying an enemy’s secret nuclear installations. He further says that there is an 80 percent to 90 percent probability that the next war will break out in the mountains and at least a 60 percent probability that the next war will remain limited to the mountains. In this scenario, the requirement of extended range is minimal.

With advances in technology, the fighter itself is losing importance and fast becoming a carrier for equipment such as AESA radars, sophisticated missiles and electronic warfare equipment. With miniaturization similar capabilities can be built in to smaller, lighter planes.

At the top-end, India has already made a choice, the Sukhois for which no tender is required. With delays in the indigenous Light Combat Aircraft Tejas project, buying another top-end fighter would mean that the IAF would be too top-heavy. Facing the prospect of a two-front war, large coverage area and the dwindling fleet (32 squadrons of 12 to 18 fighters versus a minimum of 39.5 sanctioned by the government) it is clear that the IAF needs a high number of planes to cover more areas and to deliver more sorties.

Given the above it looks as if a cheaper fighter will best suit India’s limited budget. This bends the odds in favor of single-engine competitors or the Russians, who are expected to offer the MiG-35 at a cheap price.

Things to note. This is the first IAF tender where life cycle costs will be considered, but MoD officials complain that this may not be possible for some of the players whose aircraft have very short service histories. With limited skills to evaluate such technically complex calculations, MoD may put a higher weight back to the initial price though this may just be a negotiating tactic.

It is common in Indian procurement programs for the services role to be limited to conducting tests. For the most part, the Ministry of Defense makes the decision. The bigger the deal, the more likely it is that Parliament and the government will weigh in. One source told 8ak that it would be best for the IAF to tell MoD which fighters they do not want and then let the government make a political decision.

Nobody can read the mind of the Indian government when it comes to politics. But here is our analysis.

The continuing strength of the Russian-India relationship has repeatedly surprised everyone. In a pure political face-off it is unlikely that any country would be able to outmaneuver Russia. If the past is Russian and the future (limited joint-development of Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft) is Russian, then from a training, spares, infrastructure and familiarity perspective it makes sense to stay with the Russians.

The U.S. often has the best technologies but arms export restrictions can counterbalance the technology advantages. In a war with either Pakistan or China India cannot risk a situation where the U.S. might withhold support of spares or otherwise try to influence India’s behavior. However, the lure of U.S. backing India for a UN Security Council seat is quite lucrative and in a July 2010 report by senior Pentagon official Michele Flournoy made it clear that the U.S. is putting a lot of strategic value on the fighter aircraft deal and has made it clear that they would like to see a U.S. choice. This was backed by an earlier US Navy statement putting its support behind the Super Hornet for India.

France has recently, virtually given up on sales to Pakistan and thereby made a strong commitment to India that will not go unnoticed. While they are a more reliable defense partner than the US, they are prone to mind-numbing price increases as witnessed in the Scorpene, Mirage upgrade and more recent Turbomeca/HAL deals. EADS has pointed out that it is actually supported by a consortium of four countries plus France but Indian analysts believe that India would have little influence over a consortium and hence their political value is diminished.

The key drawback with the Gripen is that Sweden is seen as the least politically influential country. But there is a catch! What is and should be most important to India, possibly even more than international politics is to build indigenous capabilities. Saab’s Asia Pacific head Jan Widerstrom has pointed out that for a large US military supplier $10 billion spread out over decades is not a very big contract. But for Saab, with Euro 3 billion in annual sales, this would shift the company’s interests to India. This is supported by Par Rohmann, the head of the technology transfer programs, who says Saab would co-develop critical technologies with India. But the Gripen uses a U.S. engine and many other components, which could allow the U.S. to play spoilsport.

Corruption continues to be a huge problem in military deals here. Despite both Defense Minister A.K. Antony and the Prime Minister having squeaky clean images, but corruption in India has reached very serious levels.

It is 8ak’s expectation that the final selection will be purely politics and will not be based on cost. Russia may have been eased out with the Sukhoi deal and US is in danger that its restrictive policies may become unpalatable in India (transport planes restrictions are different from fighters). Eurofighter and Rafale are great platforms and if cost was not an issue, then these would win. But budget and numbers are an issue so, if Saab pushes hard enough, you never know. And that is the current prediction 'you never know...'

05 July 2010

Interview: HAL-CAE's Bell 412 helicopter simulator & military simulators


02 Jul 2010 8ak: HATSOFF (Helicopter Academy to Train by Simulation of Flying (HATSOFF), the joint venture owned equally by Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) and CAE announced that its Bell 412 full-mission simulator has been certified to Level D, the highest qualification for flight simulators, by India’s Directorate General Civil Aviation (DGCA) and the European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA).

“HAL and CAE are very proud of achieving Level D certification, which is the highest performance rating given for flight training equipment, from both the DGCA and EASA,” said Wing Commander (Retd) Chandra Datt Upadhyay, Chief Executive Officer of HATSOFF. “The HATSOFF training centre is a first for India, and we are excited to begin offering simulation-based training that will prove to be one of the best approaches for improving safety, operational efficiency and mission readiness.”

The CAE-built full-mission helicopter simulator at HATSOFF features CAE's revolutionary roll-on/roll-off cockpit design, which enables cockpits representing various helicopter types to be used in the simulator. The first training program HATSOFF is offering is for operators of the Bell 412 helicopter. 

The HATSOFF training centre, located near HAL’s headquarters in Bangalore, also features multimedia classrooms, computer-based training, brief/debrief facilities, and a training management information system. The full-mission simulator features a common motion system, vibration platform, and visual display system, along with the four separate cockpit modules that can be used in the full-mission simulator. When a cockpit is not used in the full-mission simulator, it will be used as a fixed-based flight training device (FTD).

8ak asked CAE spokesperson Chris Stellwag about the market and their plans for military simulators in India.

8ak: Is Hatsoff planning any military simulators for India?

Stellwag: HATSOFF will, in fact, have a military helicopter simulator.  One of the four cockpits already planned for the HATSOFF simulator, which features CAE's revolutionary roll-on/roll-out cockpit technology, will be for the Indian Army/Air Force variant of the Dhruv helicopter.  The other three cockpits planned at HATSOFF are the Bell 412, Eurocopter Dauphin, and civil variant of the Dhruv.

8ak: Rumours are that the armed forces are reluctant to outsource training even to a HAL company

Stellwag: HAL and CAE are confident that both the Indian Army and Indian Air Force will see the tremendous benefits and advantages to Dhruv simulator training at HATSOFF.  Militaries around the world utilize various forms of contractor-operated training services.  A perfect example is the CAE owned and operated Medium Support Helicopter Aircrew Training Facility (MSHATF) at Royal Air Force Base Benson in the UK, where CAE delivers comprehensive training to operators of Chinook, Merlin, and Puma helicopters.

8ak: What is the market for military simulators in India?

Stellwag: Simulation offers a number of advantages that address an ever-increasing global threat level and new economic constraints that are pressuring top-line defence spending. The cost savings from the use of modeling and simulation is considerable. The cost of fuel, detrimental environmental impacts, and significant wear and tear on weapon systems all point to the greater use of simulation and synthetic training. Equally important as a market driver, the current state of simulation is so highly realistic that it has become an integral tool for mission preparation and rehearsal. India's defence forces are in a perfect position to extend their use of simulation to help ensure the readiness of India's defence forces as they face new and changing threats. For these reasons, we see a robust market in India for simulation.

8ak: What other military acquisitions will have CAE simulators?

Stellwag: It is premature to speculate on acquisition programs that India is considering that would have CAE simulators.  However, India is considering several platforms where CAE has significant experience and expertise.  CAE is already under contract to design and manufacture a C-130J full-mission simulator for the Indian Air Force as part of India's acquisition of C-130J aircraft, and this program is progressing well.  India is also considering platforms such as the P-8A Poseidon and MH-60R Romeo helicopter. CAE has actually developed the prototype P-8A simulator for the US Navy under subcontract to Boeing, and CAE is the US Navy's prime contractor responsible for both flight and rear-crew trainers for the MH-60R helicopter.

(note: Clarifying a misconception, Chris Stellwag said that CAE has the capability to build but was not the company to have built the flight simulator for Boeing's C-17 Globemaster. At Defexpo, 8ak video interviewed CAE India President H.J. Kamath on the T-72/T-90 simulator here.)

01 July 2010

Indian Navy issues RFI for new aircraft

30 June2010 8ak: Indian Navy (IN) has issued Request for Inquiry (RFI) to acquire new generation aircraft to operate from its aircraft carriers it intends to induct over the next decade. The RFI does not state the number of aircraft it intends to procure. 

The RFIs have been issued to global majors, who include Lockheed Martin, Boeing for F/A-18, Eurofighter Typhoon, French Dassault for Rafale, Rosoboronexport for newer Russian MiG or Sukhoi shipboard fighters. The RFI for new shipboard fighters is over and above the 45 MiG-29K fighter aircrafts India has acquired from Russia, 16 of which were ordered along with INS Gorshkov aircraft carrier in 2004. 

In the meantime, signaling that U.S. was willing to take its partnership with India to the next level, Orville Prins of Lockheed Martin has stated that it would offer its B and C variant of the F-35 aircraft to the IN. The B version of the F-35 is a short take-off and vertical landing aircraft and the C version is an aircraft carrier-based version.

28 June 2010

India clears Rs 15,000 crore Sukhoi deal

28 Jun 2010 8ak: The ongoing procurement of 126MMRCA for the Indian Air Force may not be shaping up as desired by the IAF, but in a major boost to its capability, the government has cleared the Rs 15,000 crore deal for acquiring additional 42 Sukhoi-30MkI aircraft. 

Domain-B reports that the Cabinet Committee on Security may have sanctioned this fresh purchase sometime early this month. The additional 42 Sukhoi-30MkI fighter aircrafts will be the upgraded ‘super’ variant of the aircraft. The new Super variant will be capable of carrying the BrahMos cruise missile and also the Nirbhay cruise missile which is under development.

Xinhua reports that the 42 Su-30MKI would be delivered to the Indian Air Force around 2015. The total number of the Indian Air Force's Su-30s would rise to 272 by 2018, becoming the largest type in the IAF's fighter family. 

Times of India reports that the initial contract was for 50 fighters, at US$1.46 billion. Over the years, the numbers kept increasing. In 2000, the government contracted the licensed production of 140 of these highly advanced fighters by the Hindustan Aeronautics Limited. Then another 40 were added to the contract. However, owing to the crash of two Sukhoi-30MkI, the order was enhanced to 42 aircrafts. 

The procurement of 42 more aircrafts has also been necessitated due to the delays in the current procurement process of 126 MMRCA, inability of DPSUs to complete the development of Tejas - Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) and the decision of the government to phase out the MiG-21s by 2018.